my initial pangs of unease and doubt led me to research some things.
well, a lot of things really.
i've never felt comfortable using the bible to try to calculate dates (1914).
I think we've all been there. It's like grief, you'll go through anger and bargaining too. But eventually with time and effort come acceptance. You have clearly been doing your research but don't forget to do some things to help you psychologically too. If you haven't yet read Steve Hassan's books it would be a good idea to do so before having further conversations with your wife about it all.
Welcome.
the wts has gone off the rails and is "unrepentantly" hateful.
they are blatantly requiring mothers and fathers to disown/hate their own children that they have loved and cared for since birth simply because they don't comply with the orgs demands.
how is this love?
It depends on your definition of "serious sinning". How about celebrating birthdays or Christmas?
hey everybody, here is our latest video on the jw summer conventions as well as our bunker skit!!!
:).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz1mio38jts.
Love it! What makes your videos so great is that you still look like JWs, there's no bitterness and ranting. Just reason and humour.
...is an epic triumph is emotional manipulation.
bringing together all of the stories they told thus far and placing them int he "new world" complete with the little boy who was killed in a car accident coming back from the dead.. i have a good friend who is stuck in with family and plays the role.
he said everyone was crying, and the people next to him rated the videos by how many tissues they needed to dry their eyes.
All of the videos are an exercise in emotional modelling. You will feel devastated when your child leaves "the truth". You will feel devastated when your spouse leaves "the truth". You will feel that the organisation is your only hope for survival when times are tough. You will feel euphoric in the new world.
The trouble is that the first 3 scenarios are a given. The last one will never happen. Makes for a life of sorrow and disappointment for the average JW. Shame on you governing body.
i want to spare you a long post about my background.
because this topic is about something else.a small information is that i knew ttatt before i got married.
but then i somehow pushed it back for quite some time because i didnt want to change my life and it was convenient to instantly meet new people when you move into a new city.couple of years into my marriage and seeing all the changes in the jw my thirst for ttatt resurfaced.
I've seen this happen a couple of times before here. There was a nice guy who got his wife out only for her to go off the rails and leave him. But who knows whether they would have stayed together or been happy if they stayed witnesses? I recall be eventually met someone else and was happy. It's going to bug me now that I can't remember his name!
i am planning a trip to new york and trying to develop an itinerary.
t will be my first time.
what do you suggest i see?
hi, only just joined.
going through a rough time at the moment and maybe this could help.
any body around 27 year old age.
I have:
so I can relate.
i would like to get the opinion of those on this community.
does serving as an elder make one a bad family man.
with all the demands placed on those serving... how can one make time for family life?
i've left a couple of semi-"humorous" remarks, but not yet said a proper hello....but firstly thank you, to all, for this site and all its comments.i have been lurking on this site for 4-5 years, awake for 5-6 years and seriously fading for the last 4 years.
i am now "out" and widely considered "out" by the congregation but due being very cautious and playing a very long game, (and having a wife who understand the repercussions of blowing the whistle on the few viewpoints i have discussed with her) i have not been df'd of da'd.
this forum has been a crutch and guide as well as helping me wake - and the humour many on here use has been a welcome relief.
my name is christian and my wife is katja, and we have been out of the organization for a year and a half.
we were both regular pioneers and i was a ministerial servant.
we were very much happy to be witnesses and doing our best to do more for the organization.
